said in the wake of this past one, something passed and it was supported by the brady campaign and the nra. so you can come together on these things. i think you have to be really careful. there is not a lot of evidence that these laws stop these things. these are crazy people intent on doing them. >> you know, this is just not true. >> you're taking away other people's abilities to defend themselves. >> mary katherine, if you're selling guns in the woods of verge, believe me, there becomes a pipeline to the cities that leads to this kind of carnage and i think we as a country have to have an assault weapons ban and stop selling these large -- >> bill: i got to go. let me ask you one question. >> be honest about the fact that's what you want to do. in australia, they took guns away from people -- >> bill: hold it! hold it! >> you overreact. >> bill: hold it. i think there should be a uniform thing of all 50 states about who you sell to and information about guns. but juan, the thing about the semiautomatic ban, 300 million guns here. as mr. gottlieb pointed out, they're going to buy them a